Claife Heights CSC Round 1

  • Sunday, 17 February 2013

 

Claife Heights Compass Sport Cup and Trophy event, 17th February 2013 – Assessment – Dan and Karen Parker


We received 11 emails from 9 different people and also spoke to a number of people at the event and a few days later. The comments below reflect these opinions plus our own experiences of the event.

Overall Summary: It was a very good and enjoyable event.

Pre-Event Details: These were thorough, and provided all the information required. It was good to have a detailed map showing the layout of parking, assembly and start/finish which left no ambiguity regarding timings etc. Having the old map on the web site was also appreciated – possibly something that should happen more often. Some people thought that the details were too verbose, which risked the most important facts being missed. We also thought this prior to the event, but having reviewed the details again we think that there is little superfluous information. Perhaps the font size could have been reduced to allow for quicker scanning through the (fewer) pages and would also have reduced paper use for those who printed them out.

Car Parking/Assembly: Excellent (large) road signs to get to the event. Well organised parking with clear instructions given. The good assembly area offset the negatives of linear parking for an inter-club event like this. The variable parking charges divided opinion, with the strongest views being from those against. One alternative suggestion was for full cars to be free and everyone else £2, which might be a bit fairer. Also maybe 4 people, rather than 5, should count as full since economical, environmentally friendly super-minis don’t take 5.

Courses: There were a number of comments about the area used – “rough”, “not the best Lake District area” etc. People also wondered why more use wasn’t made of the white forest. However overall the courses were very much approved of given the constraints on the parts of the area that could be used, and certainly the Blue courses that we ran provided a suitable challenge. A couple of people commented that the early controls (start through to 5) on Men’s Green were a bit easy. There were also comments from later starters that some marshy control sites were in a serious state of disrepair with the SI box trampled into the mud. We had late starts and also noticed this (controls 151 and 104). We are both great fans of having the SI boxes on the ground as it makes putting them out and getting them in so much easier. 99% of the time it doesn’t cause a problem, but maybe specific, vulnerable, sites could use an alternative layout.

Control 128: Quite a number of people were affected by the siting of this control (some quite seriously). We both visited this control and though neither of us lost any time here due to our direction of approach, we were both surprised to find it where we did, seemingly adjacent to rather than at the foot of a crag, and much higher than expected. Unfortunately it was people who took the safest route into the control that were most likely to lose time. Without re-visiting the site we can’t make a truly objective assessment and don’t want to comment without knowing all of the facts, but, given the problems, the site should probably not have been used in the first place. We also feel that the comments in the results, while correct, were too bland and perhaps some form of explanation or apology should have been given. We believe the correct decision was made (ie. no action) as any alternative would be worse; voiding the three affected courses would probably have required the CSC/T to be re-run while removing the control from the results just adds different unfairness.

Dan and Karen Parker

Results are here:

http://www.cix.co.uk/~neper/csc2013/index.htm

I’d like to thank all those who thanked me; it was good to have such positive feedback but it was all down to the many LOC members who helped on the day. Remember the NWOA assessor scheme!

I thought I should comment on the two issues that were raised with me.

I received a complaint about control 128 from a WCOC and LOC competitor during the event. 

In accordance with Rule 9; the rule which covers complaints, protests and appeals, I discussed the situation with the planner, controller and other competitors who visited the control, including one member of the jury. Having listened to what they said; and taking into account the comments made by the LOC and WCOC member's I decided that I would take no further action. 

Having made the decision; I later discussed it with another member of the jury; informing them of my decision.

I regret not putting a written notice of my decision on the results board. 

The other issue was the pricing policy for car parking. Clearly, forest road parking is not ideal but it is probably the only way we are able to use some areas. To try to reduce amount of road used, for environmental reasons and as it was a club team competition; I proposed the differential policy. We had a few ‘complaints’, it is a tax on widows/single people; it’s not nice to share with others and it is difficult to share as we do not live near any of our club members. I also had 8 - 10 comments saying it was a great idea, we very much approve; we made an effort to travel with others and enjoyed the chat, it was more sociable than normal events, we left one car in Ambleside, we brought my mum etc. So my unscientific sample was overall positive. It will be interesting to hear if it is an issue raised by the assessor scheme.

Claife is a challenging area to use with numerous landowners including the Forestry Commission and National Trust as well as other private landowners; I trust that you felt it was worthwhile. My particular thanks for the National Trust for their use of the Base Camp for assembly.

If you have not yet entered the Northern Night Championships at Great Tower then do so, it will be good! I look forward to seeing you there!

I do have an Obsession bag and a Karrimor bag as lost property, as well as Selwyn's chair!

 

 

If anyone didn't get a helper's ticket who thinks they should have got one, then shout to me at dereka57atgmail.com

 

Best wishes,

 

Derek Allison.

 

 

Many thanks to the large number of people who volunteered to collect controls. They were all collected in within an hour of courses closing, saving me having to go out into the forest again at the end of a hard few days setting out the courses.  Personal thanks particularly to those club members who took the trouble to say how much they enjoyed the courses.

Calling all control collectors re missing equipment:

Could control collectors please check their cars for the 108 baseplate and the 149 baseplate with its SI box. These have been taken out of the forest but did not get handed in. E-mail mikea.atherton@btinternet.com if you have them.

Thankyou,

Mike



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